Celebrity Docs with Adel Wilson

We speak with Adel Wilson, Best-Selling Author, Celebrity Media Coach and Marketing Strategist on how to make it in the industry.


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all right so now that we've now that we've meditated we've been envisioned and i'd like to welcome everyone to recommended daily dose i'm your host dr clinton coleman along with a special guest host dr sanjay gupta with uh hey that's not right man sorry that's profile my apologies it is profiling especially when we have the first african american vice president candidate asian american as well we're going to have we're going to talk about that this is dr

but more importantly our guest today right we have an esteemed guest you may have seen on abc nbc oxygen the view i recently saw her on the cover of 201 magazine that's miss adele wilson she is a celebrity media coach and marketing strategist she's also award-winning tv host best-selling author you can see her book there so celebrity media secrets she's also founder of celebrity media group so we'd like to welcome you here how you doing i'm doing great i'm so happy to be with both of you today i am excited so as a week as a week thank you thank you for having me well i want to start off with your your background because it's a very interesting background so your your parents were very influential when you're growing up your dad who was um one of the pioneers uh you know in medicine in washington heights he's one of the first dominican doctors there um how did your parents doctors in the us actually in the u.s yes sorry how did your parents influence you and you know what made you not want to become a doctor instead of doing what you're doing now i think it's you probably made the right decision at the end of the day but how was your your childhood growing up with with such wonderful parents thank you so much and thank you for taking a moment to honor my parents i um i lost my dad recently to complications from covent about four months ago dr james wilson was my best friend in my everything and and my mother and my father were married for 54 years prior to his passing almost five months ago um thank you thank you you guys are gonna have your oprah moment you're gonna get me to cry before the second question no we don't want you to cry you have to you won't be the first to cry on the show no thank you for that my parents were hugely influential it's almost like how did how did they were the most influential people and still are the most influential people in my life um they very much hear about walking the talk there's a lot of parents that kind of say do as i say not as i do but we grew up watching them work so hard um they put an emphasis it's my myself and my four older brothers uh an emphasis on education the importance of education the importance not so much of becoming what they are a doctor or or in the medical field but to do whatever you do well right right and to do it with integrity and to love what you do and to do it with passion and to have the education as a foundation for it and so you know my parents are just amazing people i dedicate my seventh step in my book making a difference to my parents because they taught us not only through hard work but also through philanthropy giving back my father never turned away a patient never never never they couldn't pay that was okay he gave them the same amount of attention that he would his private patients sure and sometimes they would say doc i'll come back with with the money sometimes it didn't sometimes it didn't and it was okay it was his life calling and my mother same way because she ran his practice and so we grew up in you know like a medical family and um and so my aunts and uncles were all of my parents friends which were typically other physicians and um to answer your question about why did i not pursue it i almost did pursue it that would have been a mistake because i um i have a second that i mean just from the medical field not because you i second that not because not because your talent exactly yes but because you found your passion where it is where it lies now i think then that that's the key thing but it's hard to because you know if you substitute indian uh for dominican then your story is very similar to mine in terms of father coming over mother running a practice you know influencing and i haven't just influenced me to continue in the medicine but i like what you said about education i find that's a very unique thing especially with immigrants you know is it that no matter no matter what if they came here educated or not they want to make sure uh that their kids understand the value of education and and that's like you said whatever you happen to do it well but that's a i think that's a unifying part of a lot of the immigrant experience i've seen yes yeah i agree with that and so and a lot of people used to think that because it is natural like if you're a dominican or a lot of the immigrant experiences you're either a doctor or a lawyer maybe an engineer but i'm just supposed to and so in my family i have filmmakers and ceos so none of us went into the medical field tradition right right traditional soul and pharmaceutical research i was in pharma for a little bit and so uh my master's degree is in psychology so um there's that but when i was a kid growing up that's what i thought i wanted to be i thought i wanted to be yeah i wanted to host a show and i wanted to be a doctor and i think it was in part because of all of the beautiful admiration that i saw my parents equally received when we would walk in new york city people would say oh you're dr wilson's daughter oh my gosh and he's so amazing and he cured my son of this and he did this for my mom and i still run into people you know and when he passed i had this outpouring of love and so thank thank you to all of the patients and friends that reached out but looking at feeling that admiration i said i kind of want that and so i said well i guess that means i have to become a doctor but um i originally i love the beauty business you know hence i'm a media coach so i love everything right and so i thought i wanted to become a dermatologist so my dad's like sure you want to become a dermatologist here's this book on dermatological diseases

you thought you were going to see just a lot of beautiful skin you saw the exact opposite all right yes i'm going to open up like a muddy spot it's going to be all beautiful it's like no no but you need to go through this first before you do that and i'm like well we're gonna cross off dermatology for now i'm like well what's next psychiatric he said okay that's great but you don't have to go through medical school and you're gonna have to deal with all of these things so i said okay no problem so one summer we were in dominican republic my cousin was in medical school she's now an internist in miami and um she's giving me a tour and i saw a cadaver floating in formaldehyde at the medical school yeah those are the days i died yeah i died and came back to like yeah that's not see that's what my dad said my dad said it's normal that's normal yeah you end up smelling like it your whole first year med school so you just get used to it to be honest you know so crazy yeah so that seems so that looks like you had a a unique transition away from medicine what led you towards uh media so i went from medical school dermatology so i graduated to psychology because i said what do what what can i do that i don't have to do anatomy and physiology but still deal with behavior and so i i did that but as a kid growing up i was always involved in plays and and doing and modeling my mom put me in a pageant when i was five years old so i was really into that and my brothers as well um and so i graduated i went to nyu i went to colombia i wanted to say hero mom and dad the immigrant experience i want to give you the top education do you want to take off those boxes so they feel happy right okay my daughter went off right yeah

and so within a month i had booked a tv show hosting hosting my own show as a bilingual it was a bilingual entertainment show so it's partly in spanish and partly in english and um and then i started doing trainings as a corporate trainer so instead of the actress or host pounding the pavement and doing um like waitressing on the side i said my dad would kill me if i did that but let me put my education to good use so i would teach yeah so in between auditions and in between um shows and streets that's i would do training so i taught over 14 000 people over the years doing that but did you do some acting as well tell us a little bit about that because you know clinton actually has an interest in acting um what do you want to do again clinton i've been watching movies

you actually have a very good look for the movies ah i see oh i think she's talking to me that's fine all right watch out denzel

and it would be i could see a little drama i could see you both on like general hospital you know that's my wife's that's my wife's favorite uh like like mindless thing you know she works very hard she went to columbia as well she's in finance and marketing but when she wants to just like vag out she will watch general hospital all day you know all night long it's amazing i mean she's just it's just mindless but she loves it it is a little mindless if i could if you could get me on there as a guest appearance like a doctor just walking in the background i think i would be a big hit in our house you know so i feel like we can hook that up i mean i i didn't do any soaps in in hollywood because i kind of refused to all of my coaches always said all right it's out you've done a lot in new york it's time to go to la and i'm such a jersey girl but with that new york spirit that i'm like i don't think i could get used to it but yeah so you know i've done voiceovers and i did work both in english and spanish a zillion commercials voiceovers i did um your wife might like one life to live on abc children i played a doctor actually on one life to live wow that was the closest i got i'm like dad wearing the stethoscope so you got it you stethoscope so yes to a number of years of doing doing that and pounding the pavement right training and um so yeah it's been it's been great for a lot of well-known brands so you name it car crash i think it's a good i think that's a good segment you know because we are we talk about medicine we're talking media like what do you what are your thoughts on physicians in the media because you know i think so a lot of physicians us included you know sometimes um you know we're not looking to be famous for our thought has always been and i sure a lot of physicians out there that if you can take your knowledge and use media as a way to um expand your audience not because you're trying to to really just become famous because you really feel passionate about what we do right whether it's nephrology infectious disease of course now with kobit but we have a lot of academic interests that we feel hey we're very passionate about you know we we found a podcast a way of reaching an audience and also for personal growth uh both of us do a lot of media and medical reporting which has been you know good for our careers but also we feel like hey we're able to reach a larger audience but what are your thoughts on that because i mean i think sometimes we're conflicted like you know should we be doing this you know um are we taking time away from our patients is it okay you know what are your thoughts on that oh my gosh that's such a great question and i think the moment that we're living through right now pandemic who is more important than the voice of the physician in the media right now well depends if it depends if you ask it depends you know some politicians might disagree so you ask right yeah well you're asking your media and you're also asking the daughter of a doctor and so and also someone i i worked in the healthcare field for a number of years so i used to do um marketing and conferences for one of the top academic institutions in new york city and so working through their cma conferences and all of that good stuff and i think it's it's a paramount importance there would be i can't imagine the void that would exist if we didn't have doctors in the media like yourselves providing information as to what we should be doing on a daily basis how we should be keeping our family safe and healthy you know some people obviously right now even folks that aren't feeling well don't want to go to the doctor sure bill you are our lifeline and you know i want to thank you both and thank all of the doctors and nurses and healthcare workers of course for being on the front lines this is the most important time to have your voices heard and to you know if you feel like you have um something to say about what's happening socially i think doctors have that social responsibility to talk about what their beliefs are in their perspectives and they're coming from from a different angle so i think not to have a voice would be the irresponsible thing if you have the platform use it and and absolutely and share your message it is hugely important yes yeah i think um you know part of my issue with doctors and in the media is you know should they be celebrities should they should they entertain or should they be thought leaders and be you know the boring scientists that they are or should they get involved in social activism so i think you know or can we do all above

most people don't think that the doctors can entertain them right like um they don't think that they're normal people very entertaining to me oh i know i am but

especially me i'm the real entertaining one here i mean you know i'm like i said i gotta tell people i'm not only the brains but also uh you know the beautiful kind of thing so clint's more the i.t he's more the i.t and technical support uh the situation no but you know i mean just two comments i'll make is one you mentioned um talking about standing up for uh racial issues inequalities and and you know both and i feel clint and i both feel very passionate about it as minority physicians that you know racism is a public health issue and you know we've talked about before but you know people uh may sometimes tell us oh you know the quote unquote stay in your lane and i say no you know it's our responsibility as physicians to talk about these issues but you know you're only limited uh if you're just talking to patients day to day and and both of him and i see a lot of sick patients in the hospital so this is not really the time when in the icu and the patient's very sick to be lecturing about or discussing social inequalities in medicine you know so that's kind of where we look at these creative outlets um our podcast on doing media as a way to do something socially uh conscious and morally responsible but at the same time not be dry not be boring uh we try to throw in some uh friday and coming to america references in every show we do we we date ourselves america so you got you've got your gal right here so there you go i mean uh we threw it out there and i think there's a there's a part two coming out soon sooner am i right with our city hall again yes you girl on so here's my guilty pleasure your wife's is general hospital mine is that franchise of real housewives of insert xyz so mine is beverly hills okay so i can't remember her last name but gabriel she's she's going to be on coming to america part two so they are on front row i don't know about you guys wow that's gonna be a tough tough role to follow though because coming to america part one the first one original was really quite in my mind a perfect movie you know so it was pretty perfect i will say

but um i

our challenge is you know the role of doctors you think people want to hear something outside of the office as far as something informative like when you're going to when you turn on a tv you want to be entertained you don't want to hear about illness and all that stuff um even when we do the news part of the you know two minutes of the news is medical news when you know majority of life revolves around your health so i think it's there's there's entertainment value which it's been it's been hard to translate that into you know the media yes i understand that and that makes sense when i by the way i me personally i use the word celebrity thought leader subject matter expert celebrity go to expert interchangeably so i personally don't make a distinction because when i train doctors nurses lawyers you name it um the idea is to be a celebrity in your industry not necessarily that when you walk out to a restaurant it was a good word by fans right allah dr oz maybe so it could get to that level but not not necessarily but i do think that there is a role for physicians because and there are health care disparities we know this and it does impact the medical process i've lived it personally and so i think it's important to to voice that and and yes and the other thing is yes when we're on tv it is a fine line between educating and entertaining right yes both mastered it so you guys well i think no one wants to see their doctor on their uh doing stand-up comedy right but the same time there's no reason they want to have a physician who can relate and uh you know both our backgrounds right i mean i'm a son of immigrant physicians you know clinton is a minority but he we i find that with our own personal experiences you can relate to a lot of different people in a lot of different ways and i also grew up in the south in a small town so i kind of have that you know it's kind of like but then i went to maryland southern maryland it was the south that that's that's that's the south not the dirty south wales version of the south uh see that's how southern maryland is the south i'll tell you that southern maryland went from maryland to southern mail okay you're getting shorter more south and i went to school in richmond so see that's the south as well but my point is that you know i think people do want to have their physician that is not talking down to them right that's kind of the old school way that uh you know uh doctor knows best father knows best they want positions they can relate to they can talk to and so i think that's why it's important to have um physicians healthcare workers nurses whoever might have something um some other a voice they may be they may be broadcasting out there to to be able to relate to patients in a more casual manner right because you know not in such a stuffy manner i think it's important i think i think that's that's one of the ways you connect with your physician because one of the things that i'm sure you've heard complaints not necessarily about you but maybe from other patients when they go to you maybe as a second opinion or or they might simply you know they don't listen the doctor gave me five minutes i know about this person so it's nice when you have that personal touch and i think the doctor that you know it's not about being a comedian but can can make you feel comfortable because it's always kind of scary to go to a physician if it's not a regular checkup sure um you know it's always kind of an anxiety written or can be experienced and so i think those are some of the things that help us get comfortable and connect um and so i think that's a good thing and it's important to kind of do that even when you have two to three minutes on camera during your segments to kind of showcase your personality as well personality just relatability right i think that's important but you know not not just for him and i and what we do i think it's really also for the patient's benefit like you mentioned which is fantastic i mean it's true patients come in and they may be scared they may be anxious and uh sometimes we take it for granted you know and people use big words and then walk out of the room and the patient just say you know so i try to be and we both and you know a lot of physicians all our colleagues i think we all try to be cognizant of that fact but you're right sometimes we may rush through a patient experience so i think if you can have a relatability so you're basically saying i should open up with a joke when i walk in the room right that might be helpful

that's right that might work that might work it works for you yeah i think everyone has to kind of go i mean we say jokingly but everyone kind of has to go with their own personality and sometimes that works for folks so yes absolutely i i want to talk about your book uh celebrity media secrets and let me give the whole title seven simple steps to present with power poise and style on camera get booked on tv and media and become a celebrity in your industry and in fact you can get a complimentary copy absolutely so i'm happy to give your viewers a complimentary copy of my latest bestselling book and they can test media 101 to the number three and then you just follow the prompts and it'll be right in your inbox you're just gonna have to put your email and name and you'll get a free copy so tell us about your tell us about your book and what inspired you to write it oh my gosh that's a great question so what inspired me to write it was i was i was hoping to be the coach and i am hoping that i am the coach that i wish i had when i was hosting and looking for coaches and as an actress and so i compiled a seven-step methodology to make it simple so that folks don't have to find read ten books on media training or on presenting on camera or on getting booked on tv they just had this one source in my book and so i just went through all of the steps that have helped me in the past and so i can quickly go over the seven steps with you if you'd like definitely absolutely yeah we want people to read the book of course but i would love you know because i'll be honest clint and i both just kind of showed up one day on fox news and started here yeah i don't think he had any preparation you know so to know that these these resources are out there is very important and the good thing is it translates to other things right just when you're given the speech in a meeting or presentation or even just community interviews job interviews whatever it might be any way you present yourself for instance so i love that you both said that because it is i am a media coach but i don't stop just on camera so for many years i taught just public speaking to entrepreneurs and professionals over the years and then step two was media training um but so it's it translates into your kid just graduated college they need to present themselves well during the job interview or they just graduated high school now they have maybe their college entrance interviews right a lot of these zoom interviews so now in the last four or five months we've all been thrust into going on camera whether we like it or not yeah sure right in the form of zoom and skype and other video conference platforms and so it's also how you present yourself there and so it doesn't even have to mean you want to become a celebrity but we are in this whole world and i really don't think we're going 100 back to where we were ever again i agree i agreed yeah yes so but there's a lot of there's there's seven steps and it starts with mindset which is what we're talking about when we talk about message image and branding it's a compilation of my experiences as an actress as a coach as a producer um as an acting coaches i taught acting as well and as a as a corporate trainer so i put together my corporate experience even my experience working behind the scenes running seminars for my doctors as well as presenting seminars over the years um like i said about 14 000 people i've presented to over the years so i took all of that and put that in this book right here yeah now have you seen a lot i mean now you were talking about the kova 19 pandemic and of course the unfortunate personal experience you've had with it but in terms of work i mean uh are you seeing more and more people now reaching out to you or now understanding hey this is important i can't just um in the beginning it was kind of fun you show up on zoom no one knows what they're doing then you realize some people do some people don't you know um some people have the dogs barking in the background you know what have you but you're right i i think with technology i we we most likely will never go back and a lot of the big companies right facebook google have already said look you can work from home indefinitely um so what should be a couple of takeaways that people at home or that are listening you know may take away without giving away all your secrets about what they can do not just in appearance but how they can present better on zoom whether it's a daily chat just communicate right communication is such a vital tool and you don't have to give a ted talk but just to be able to communicate you know with someone like them or whatever you know it's just but there's some uniqueness there's something you lose when you're not in person so what should people know just some basic takeaways you know that from for what you should be how you should convey yourself present yourself in in this virtual work world perfect great question and so the first thing i would say is if you i would say start with you with what you have so some people are going out of their way to get webcams and trust me again i have a bunch of them at home i have my microphone when tech things there's sometimes technical difficulties you have to be flexible so you can go out and get an expensive camera but you don't need to you can start with your ipad or an iphone start with what you have if you want to just the webcam in your in your computer you can do that as well your desktop but what i will say is make sure that you're looking in the through the viewfinder through the lens because sometimes our tendency is to look right at the person we're speaking to like right now i'm looking at you by here okay right right so we wanted to make sure that we're looking at the lens there we go also don't fall asleep i feel i feel like clinton may be falling asleep over there only when you talk do i fall asleep that's the time you should fall asleep don't listen to me but just make sure

audio is really important as well so make sure your audio is good um that your lighting is also really really an important thing so tell us a little bit about lighting's i feel like i feel like the lightning touch of my head and not enough on my high cheekbones so you know how do we work about that we have to accentuate those high cheekbones we have to we have to what god gave us we have to accentuate i agree i agree you have to go with your natural abilities and your natural talent and beauty so good it's very easy for for both of you so but you know for those that may not have it as easy i would recommend um so start start with what you have if it's daytime fantastic just find a good light source a big window or a window and you don't want to have the window behind you because that's happening right okay right you want the window to be in front of you to give you that light okay the other thing you could do if you want to spend a little bit more for maybe a little 150 or it depends sometimes it goes for like 99 you can buy yourself something called a ring light and a ring light and you can put your either your smartphone in the middle of it or you can use one that holds an ipad so whatever is your uh your tool of choice right right and you just have that one source right in front of you and it's very easy because you have your your phone your ipad you just turn the light on you plug it in and you're ready to go um another thing is not to have a very busy background so maybe find a nice white wall or it doesn't have to be even white just a nice plain wall and um yeah and you can even think about what think about what you're wearing as well try not to wear bright i'm sorry dark colors dark colors right and try not to wear white white reflects the light and black absorbs the light so you'll see a lot of folks on tv and most of them unless it's like a gazillion dollar production black or white right so oh these are these nice tips and it's okay to wear shorts and and just be barefoot you've got shorts on now don't you are you wearing shorts uh i'm not even sure i i have no comment you know i'm like you may not be wearing anything oh gosh that's enough we all have to breathe a little bit but no but i mean

most of the time i will just like if i'm doing the news i will wear a suit you know because i have to top at the bottom i'm just wearing shorts you know and then i just remember not to stand up uh at the end of it so people don't see me but you have to remember not to stand up because that will be the end of your media career at that moment or the beginning you never know right or the beginning can we wait let me ask how do you how do you maintain you you're so bubbly and energetic how do you maintain maintain that i or maybe just your personality but for me like yeah that energy it's like i'll have a bad day and then you gotta go on camera and just like you know it's hard to turn that on and off is there like a secret or is it something that you're practicing because we initially started we initially started we were telling some techniques i'm sorry interrupt but that's really what i wanted to echo because times that clint and i um are doing the podcast but we're finishing up patience and literally five minutes before we start you know we're just running running running and then we even a couple times uh when we used to do it in person before cover 19 we would i would show up or he would show up and just watch a clip of like friday show or something like the chappella store or something just to start laughing i mean i love this chapel show by the way that's a perfect mindset shift from a crazy horrible day or just a busy day and to just kind of by the way um i had if i'm ever down that's the one that i want to put on repeat is a chappelle show and i've done that i remember having just crazy crazy times in college and one of my friends that i were we watched maybe like five or six chappelle show episodes back to back shout out to dave chappelle if you're watching we obviously love you

so it's great that you asked that question but it's a really important question to ask because you are busy and most of my clients are as well i don't i just wrapped up another meeting about something that is very serious subject matter and so i'm i'm a trained actress and so that those are part of the techniques that i teach in the book and that i share with my coach with my clients and so you kind of have to um it's that mindset piece so if music gets gets you kind of pumped up tony robbins i don't know if you're familiar with tony robbins the well-known inspirational speaker yeah absolutely correct correct and he gets he uses music to kind of get him pumped up and excited before he hits the stage and clinton does the same thing with country music he's a big country music and so yeah which is surprising that gets me he is surprised i'm more of a hip-hop guy but he's in the country you're not

there's a lot we'll discuss later i'm sure um let's talk about that off camera i think it would be very entertaining and interesting but but yeah i mean what whatever the type of music it can break apart is one of my top recommendations so i mean you were just reading my mind right there i don't know but yes these are all techniques music meditation prayer envisioning and also just thinking what what what is my audience expecting of me do they want this doctor welcome everyone to recommend the daily dose i'm your host you know it's been a long day that holy name and let's go we've got this we've got this guest let's talk about it you've seen our episodes

no but you're basically saying do you want to put people to sleep or do you want to keep people engaged right so that's why you have to in kind of just engaged you have to getting it so even if you're having i always say even when i was a corporate trainer i still train and i do my run my workshops but even when i was training other folks material or even my own i would always tell my my audience hey guys even if you're having a bad day and i worked a lot within healthcare i would say the last couple of years of my corporate training were dedicated to uh medical centers so nurses doctors hr etc professionals and so i would say leave it at the door whatever your cares are because it'll be bad you can go pick it up afterwards i would say absolutely okay that's good again yeah yeah because your audience there's a reason that they're tuning in not just to be um informed which clearly you're doing or to showcase experts which you do quite well but also to be entertained this is a medium where they want to be educated and entertained at the same time and so for that 30 minutes or for that 60 minutes that you're with them go full out and present yourself in the best light because that is what's going to attract other opportunities to you and that's what's going to resonate i like that you have to leave at the door i like to leave clinton a door sometimes as well i got a full of one no but you know what i know we're talking we're being joking around live but i want to ask a serious question if you don't mind was because obviously we're living in a strange time uh um a great in one way a strange time in one way a time where we can talk about uh race and uh racial inequalities and social justice and things like that but is there anything that you have to um and if you don't answer those questions okay is there i just wonder is there anything you have to um coach uh minorities uh there are specific concerns of minorities in media you know i mean and i i don't know if that's even the answer writing if i'm saying this question properly is there any concerns or or issues that you know minorities need to be aware of that are in um in in the limelight in media etc so that's a great question and i've never quite heard a question like that before but what i will say is i don't i tailor all of my programs if i'm coaching a person one-on-one i'm taking everything into account yes and one of the first things apart from mindset and message is their image what is it how do they want to present themselves to the world and that goes across all races and cultures so what i can say is one of my first media training clients once i opened up celebrity media group was um a law firm and they called me because they wanted me to help rebrand one of their attorneys and she was an immigration attorney and now moving into the personal injury world and it wasn't until after they signed the contract that they said by the way all of the branding and all the the training that you do i mean you could do your training in english but we want you to do her media assets all in spanish so there's a way that i know just because i'm of dominican descent to communicate with the spanish-speaking world with latinos and so there's a way that you communicate to a certain demographic right and so i think maybe that's a better way to pose it as opposed to i say no sure sure it depends on your audience yeah it depends upon your audience and it depends upon what's the message that you want to impart so regardless of phrase or or culture but i will say it's it's for me it's always customized so i'm looking at the person as a whole person and when i'm coaching i ask a number of kind of exploratory questions and assessments and to kind of gauge where they're at and and how they want to be seen by the world and that takes everything into account race calls that takes everything and i appreciate that because i think both of us want to still always incorporate um some aspects of our cultural and and and and and backgrounds you know and um and i think there's nothing wrong with that right because it's who you are is who he is who i am and we try to you know there's there's such a small percentage of physicians that are my minority groups that we we need your voices and and and it's and it's so imperative so i'm glad that that that's a great question that you asked and it makes a lot of sense so yeah i appreciate the answer thank you all this has been very helpful i would love i was trying to see if you could go over some videos yeah i just want to make fun of him are we doing the head-to-head thing head-to-head so let me let me try this first you know i hate i i hate hearing my voice though on camera i will tell you that right now you probably picked my worst clip if i picked my worst clip oh why'd you pick this one okay pot changes so the high def camera wait let's see i'm gonna pause it look at the the fake glasses that's not fake by the way i've been wearing glasses since i was in kindergarten just you know but the suit the suit the suit looks good though this suit's on point nice tie all right high def cameras help a lot there with steven we know steve and dory looking good they're looking great should you do like the closed mouth fake smile or just stare straight ahead i don't know what to do right okay i'm not a big teeth smiler you know so i like to keep it i don't know

okay so clearly it's very serious okay all right we're smiling a little bit okay good how about the hands where should the hands go because i i i get a little jersey sometimes my hands i start throwing out the gang signs you know my hands go every which way so [ __ ] there you go see it starts going up and down is that okay good if the hands are deliberate kind of like what politicians do that's a good thing it keeps me on point i feel like when i'm speaking it's like my cadence so you know that i kind of like you know one two three whatever um by the way i did take the liberty to watch a little bit beforehand okay so one of the things for you dr sucker that i no give it to me i i can take i'm a big boy i can take it it's all good by the way so i love when you said in this particular segment when people when people ask me doc and then insert whatever they're questioning right that's a really good thing because that connects with the audience that tells them he's not just a doctor on tv he is actually out there in the world with real patients and that's a question that a million patients will have all the time so i appreciate that you know like i said him and i both are just kind of winging it and so i just kind of made that up i use that a lot actually and i might my thought had always been what you just verbalized which is to kind of just personalize it you know and so i appreciate that thank you it's very personalized and i can i can relate to that as a patient so i love that i love what you were wearing as we mentioned so the suit is on point so the image and branding are congruent very nice and um your body language is good you seem very interested obviously in the subject subject matter and engaged with with both of your interviewers which is not easy to do and um and in a very short period of time to do that so we're fortunate we have a good relationship with them both i mean you know on air you know before off air before and after we oftentimes just joke around with them and you know um and they're both very nice and very engaged i've had my son clint's had his son on on set you know yeah yeah so even the weatherman you know is they're all very very nice um ernie anastos who's like a legend there he's very nice to our kids we feel very comfortable can we i'm gonna move on to this strikingly handsome specimen yeah i have a i have a bit of concern with this i have a bit of a concern with this goatee that's my big concern but you had you you're there let's watch i'm excited to see this okay so ready let's see okay again the suit's on point all right okay looking at myself jesus where's your tie clip you're missing your usual tie clip there oh the eye looks good so acetaminophen and cancer okay i feel like it suits little boys to men but and i look i look very ashen like like i was playing in baby powder

it looks good it looks good and i just from looking at at the clip

imagine writing on points very engaged very relaxed which is good by the way beca and you're both very relaxed on camera it shows that you've been doing this for a while because a lot of people they know their material no matter what their physician or attorney or whatever their profession is and they're called on to do a segment on tv and they are so nervous and it chills yeah when it shows what it does to the audience is it makes them feel uncomfortable and it makes them question hey does this person really know what they're talking about and so when you're relaxed on camera and that comes with years of experience and or media training to accelerate that makes the person on the other end watching you on camera watching you on tv or watching this podcast feel comfortable so i did take some notes you were very engaged well dressed talked about the benefits quickly um and the cons of acetaminophen and possible links to cancer um you offered some statistics as well everybody loves that we like to eat up the statistics right but not too many though right i know in the beginning i used to try to be more medically uh based and you know and i realized i had to i hate using the word dumb down but you know just don't get too much into the study just getting to the meat of the matter so to speak that's right i love that you said that because i don't like to use dumb down but that's what i because it in layman's terms the worst whatever yeah yeah exactly the worst thing a physician can do and i've experienced this myself is you know they'll speak in medical jargon or anyone in a specific industry that only they understand among their colleagues and then they walk away and it's like oh no hold on what did you mean what was this what are t-cells you know break it down so that the person on the other end is understanding and think about your patients just if your patient were sitting across from you that's how i would recommend always approaching it but you guys did an amazing job you don't need any help from me

but the real question is who was better i mean i had my own thoughts i mean i think the world has their own thoughts but we just wanted to hear someone who's trained i used to say that the best it was first so you already showed the best clip first i mean

i think my remember amazing and that's a toss-up because you both did a beautiful job and keep up the good work and keep sharing this important information with our community it needs to be shared and i'm so glad that it's you guys on a weekly basis on fox news

we wanted to thank adele wilson for joining us please pick up her book celebrity media secrets it's on amazon right and you can also text the code we'll post that below where can they find you on social media though oh thank you for that um tv instagram facebook also i just launched my new youtube channel so if you want to pick up some cool public speaking tips or media training tips that's my new home uh to share those tips with you and also i'm on linkedin so at adele wilson m a and i hope to see you guys there it's been a pleasure thank you for having me it's the pledge believe me it's we really appreciate you coming on so much and especially giving uh feedback uh for myself and for lying about clinton and you know making it better myself i think that's really important

you guys are really funny so i think you guys need to take this show also on the road when the time comes that that that would be uh that would definitely be in the plans we could take maryland is the south it's it's geographically the north it's south of the mason-dixon line but culturally all right so we'll debate that next time but we want to thank all our guests thank thank thank all our listeners and thank our special guest adele wilson for being on today uh find us on spotify and apple podcast as well as on youtube until next time i am your co-host dr serge sugger with my esteemed colleague and sidekick clinton coleman till next time be well thank you adele so much thank you very much

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